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a finnish shoe polish ad from the 20's.

Things were different in the twenties. I recall reading a script from a Marx Brothers show, perhaps a movie, where there were many references to dagos, whops, and niggers. It was shocking to read this in the eighties especially since I held the humor of the Marx brothers in high regard.

never was much of a Marx fan, i lean more towards a routine like "who's on first."

then there was another page showing how incredibly racist finns were. except they'd mistranslated the word negro into having meant nigger. this makes a big difference and it was on imgur so i couldn't even yell at them.

I monitor Imgur and have commented on a few posts there. It's all done in the space below the video/images.

The thing about racism is that it was not taken the same way back in the roaring twenties as it is these days. Racism was simply an accepted fact of life until somebody figured out that people are getting screwed without being kissed. I know there is a lot of intolerance for non-Brits going on in the UK, but have always thought of Scandinavians as being more progressive and liberal. It is humorous to see a clearly American pejorative misused in a foreign language. You see a lot of that on FB in Russian sponsored content, but they are not the only ones.

i would have commented, but oh, you need to log in. and it turned into a big hassle.

n/m.

in finland the big issue was, and still is in certain circles, the 'blacks ones', the finnish word for roma. come to think of it, i don't know what african people are called.

I believe that what we know as racism is everywhere. A comment I read many years ago noted that there is only one race, i.e., the human race. Apparently anthropologists don't get the philosophy behind that observation and have divided us into at least 5 different races:

• Caucasoid (White) race.
  Negroid (Black) race.
  Capoid (Bushmen/Hottentots) race.
  Mongoloid (Oriental/ Amerindian) race.
  Australoid (Australian Aborigine and Papuan) race.

I think a lot of what we call racism these days is actually an attack on different cultures, which may be contained within a single race. It's complicated, but boils down to hate any way you look at it.

exactly!

personally i don't get it, yesterday's train ride i was sitting next to a black, rather a brown, girl that was absolutely stunningly beautiful. no idea what "race", "species", whatever she was, but the result was awesome. yet some will dismiss her as "one of those" because she wasn't the unhealthy pink hue of most of the other passengers.

daft.

I don't know if it's a stereotype or not, but the word on the street is that racism is practiced more openly in England (probably the entire UK) than it is elsewhere in the world. The defense for that bias is interesting. Brits have a heritage that goes back many centuries. There is a feeling for a need to preserve that heritage and all the traditions that go along with it. This urge to preserve is a major factor in their immigration policies, but the bias goes right down to the grass roots. In this country your are considered to be an "animal" (so said the Chief of State recently) if you are not white. White supremacy is not exactly the same as preservation of one's heritage, but both concepts base on fear and loathing.

you got that right! and should you suggest to an alt-right anywhere that their idiotic world view is based on fear, well!
it's one thing to be stupid, another to fiercely cling to and defend it.

It's interesting to listen to the Right Wing Nuts expound upon their philosophies. You have been around this kind of bulletin board for as many centuries as I have, and those extreme Right Wing-ers have been with us since the dawn of the Internet. I'm sure you would find some interesting reading in our archives. The extremist, for reasons unknown to me, always lean in a God fearing conservative direction. There are some good values in that sort of doctrine, but there is no rationale. Aside from the obvious power play, what is the compelling argument to support white supremacy, for example? The argument I've read most often is that I'm a jackass liberal, which may or may not be correct. But, what does that have to do with advocating one race over another? Today the alt-right is said to be suffering from cognitive dissonance. Sounds right to me.

that's not all it's suffering from...

meanwhile, it is quite fascination to see how they operate, breaking down to name-calling when all else fails. a few minutes ago i was reading this board on wolves and ye gods, do they get vicious when you suggest that they're wrong about wiping them all out! it's the same plot, like this genius of a woman said (paraphrased) "congratulations to the young boy for killing the wolf and protecting god's creatures"

wait... what?

I saw a picture of a huge pile of shoes on FB yesterday. The caption was something about them belonging to the Jews in WWII Europe who gave up their guns and were promptly escorted to the "showers." Somehow that is supposed to be the argument against any legislation to regulate or ban guns that people use to shoot up school children in America, ca 2018. When you ask for some logic to that, the response is name calling.

yes, this argument has frequently been trotted out and the brain-washing, fear tactics, segregations etc leading up the pile of shoes is completely ignored. just like it was then, but the different reason that this horror was inconceivable to anyone normal.

I would point out that the UK, England in particular, was victimized by Hitler and his Nazis. They know what it's like to be on the receiving end of carpet bombing. I would also point out that gun ownership is prohibited for the most part and highly regulated for those who choose hunting as a sport. I've not seen any photos of shoes piled shoulder high nor heard any stories of unarmed Brits being exterminated in England after the war. Must be some kind of coincident.

true enough.

In my opinion racism is just for mascot breeding... You already know where I come from... We in the extended family have eyes colored on the entire spectrum range, skin colored in mostly all the spectrum range, and we can't really define ourselves with a word different than what we understand as "mestizo", or mixed... I do find "interracial" taboos as fully nonexistent and nonsensical... But well, Who am I to speak about it?...

Different cultures have different ideas about race. I'm told there is only one race, by the way, the human race. The way "racism" is used today is purely a social construct. It has nothing to do with biology or science. Our own American history shows how our notions of race evolved out of the conservative rural southern slave market. They like to say that the plantation owners of the day needed slaves in order to run their business, and thus justified their importing. While that might be true for business purposes, the idea of owning slaves turned those people into a commodity that is less than human. Placing that kind of value on any group of people is simply wrong. The bottom line is that those other "races" are different. I don't know if it's fear or arrogance, but most people instinctively reject things that are too different.

I'm sure you've heard of the Italian Tire!
Dago in rain.
Dago in snow.
Dago in mud.
And when Dago flat, Dago Whop Whop Whop.

I recall the Marx Brothers using "Dago" in some of their radio broadcasts. Of course, today that would not be Politically Correct.

That's probably where I got that from, hi hi.